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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
		<link>http://www.thecriticalcondition.com/2009/06/17/hallmark/comment-page-1/#comment-5832</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda - if you are not already an advertising executive then you have missed your true calling.  Bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda &#8211; if you are not already an advertising executive then you have missed your true calling.  Bravo!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the point is he an adorable cool boy that does a cool thing for his Dad. Go Charlie, yoau are sooo cute!</description>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repeated myself about the Frontline doc. But it&#039;s good, and worth repeating. :)</description>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh mercy, Michael, they&#039;re probably not misinterpreting their audience *at all.* (Sadly they usually don&#039;t.) It&#039;s probably very pleasing for many women to think of cute ways for their little boys to be emotionally expressive. That&#039;s what this comes down to -- Hallmark wants to present the ideal gift for little boys to give their dads! This recordable card is personal, it&#039;s authentic, it&#039;s not just about shopping! After all, it&#039;s easy to get *girls* to pick out gifts for Father&#039;s Day. Those wild little boys are the problem.

And by the way, to me this commercial seems right in line with the whole &quot;men are dolts&quot; trope -- not an exception to that tendency at all. The little boy is a kid, so it&#039;s sentimentalized. But if in ads men are depicted as emotionally-unsophisticated, sex-obsessed, beer-obsessed, childlike mooks, it&#039;s usually in contrast to the women in their lives, who are being bossy, nagging, but savvy and practical shoppers. This ad is just a sentimentalized version of that. There was a good discussion of why this &quot;mook&quot; stereotype is so popular among marketers in a Frontline documentary a few years back called The Marketing of Cool. 

Totally agree about the trannies, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh mercy, Michael, they&#8217;re probably not misinterpreting their audience *at all.* (Sadly they usually don&#8217;t.) It&#8217;s probably very pleasing for many women to think of cute ways for their little boys to be emotionally expressive. That&#8217;s what this comes down to &#8212; Hallmark wants to present the ideal gift for little boys to give their dads! This recordable card is personal, it&#8217;s authentic, it&#8217;s not just about shopping! After all, it&#8217;s easy to get *girls* to pick out gifts for Father&#8217;s Day. Those wild little boys are the problem.</p>
<p>And by the way, to me this commercial seems right in line with the whole &#8220;men are dolts&#8221; trope &#8212; not an exception to that tendency at all. The little boy is a kid, so it&#8217;s sentimentalized. But if in ads men are depicted as emotionally-unsophisticated, sex-obsessed, beer-obsessed, childlike mooks, it&#8217;s usually in contrast to the women in their lives, who are being bossy, nagging, but savvy and practical shoppers. This ad is just a sentimentalized version of that. There was a good discussion of why this &#8220;mook&#8221; stereotype is so popular among marketers in a Frontline documentary a few years back called The Marketing of Cool. </p>
<p>Totally agree about the trannies, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Blankenship</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Ferretrick, in that I think all these interpretations are valid. I hadn&#039;t thought about the ad from the perspective of &quot;younger kids are always at the center,&quot; for instance, so thanks for that, y&#039;all.

Also, nice to hear from the fathers in the room. Thanks Jeff C. and Michael!

At the end of the day, I just really want ads to stop reinforcing so many useless cliches about the way people (men, women, children, boys, girls, etc.) supposedly behave. But I&#039;m not counting on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ferretrick, in that I think all these interpretations are valid. I hadn&#8217;t thought about the ad from the perspective of &#8220;younger kids are always at the center,&#8221; for instance, so thanks for that, y&#8217;all.</p>
<p>Also, nice to hear from the fathers in the room. Thanks Jeff C. and Michael!</p>
<p>At the end of the day, I just really want ads to stop reinforcing so many useless cliches about the way people (men, women, children, boys, girls, etc.) supposedly behave. But I&#8217;m not counting on that.</p>
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		<title>By: ferretrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>ferretrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting the number of different interpretations of the same thirty second spot, and to me there&#039;s merit in every one.   I would be willing to give a pass on the sexism aspect if it was just that the girls picked impersonal gifts.  But the dialogue pushes it into definitely sexist.  The combined comments of, &quot;Because I&#039;m a fashion expert&quot; and &quot;I smelled it in a magazine&quot; reinforce the worst gender stereotyping, because obviously all pre-teen girls know or care about is fashion and other superficial things.   They could have solved a lot of the problem by having an older child of each sex.  

And the youngest child receiving all the attention is definitely another valid interpretation.  As long as we are using Cosby show metaphors, call it the Rudy/Olivia syndrome.  Keisha Knight Pulliam was the epicenter of cute the show kept going to for its most memorable moments until she grew too old for the part-at which point Raven Symone was brought in and Rudy was shunted to the side.

&quot;Did Hallmark misunderstand that audience in labeling girls as superficial and boys as genuine? Or were they guessing that moms might have a special feeling for their little boys?&quot;

I don&#039;t think they misunderstood at all.  Let&#039;s face it, this is aimed at the same kind of people who cry at &quot;The Christmas Shoes&quot; and think its a good piece of music.  I don&#039;t think they expect anyone in the target market to look at it any deeper than, &quot;Oh isn&#039;t that little boy cute!  I must run out and buy one of those cards so my child can be cute like that!&quot;  And they were probably right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting the number of different interpretations of the same thirty second spot, and to me there&#8217;s merit in every one.   I would be willing to give a pass on the sexism aspect if it was just that the girls picked impersonal gifts.  But the dialogue pushes it into definitely sexist.  The combined comments of, &#8220;Because I&#8217;m a fashion expert&#8221; and &#8220;I smelled it in a magazine&#8221; reinforce the worst gender stereotyping, because obviously all pre-teen girls know or care about is fashion and other superficial things.   They could have solved a lot of the problem by having an older child of each sex.  </p>
<p>And the youngest child receiving all the attention is definitely another valid interpretation.  As long as we are using Cosby show metaphors, call it the Rudy/Olivia syndrome.  Keisha Knight Pulliam was the epicenter of cute the show kept going to for its most memorable moments until she grew too old for the part-at which point Raven Symone was brought in and Rudy was shunted to the side.</p>
<p>&#8220;Did Hallmark misunderstand that audience in labeling girls as superficial and boys as genuine? Or were they guessing that moms might have a special feeling for their little boys?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think they misunderstood at all.  Let&#8217;s face it, this is aimed at the same kind of people who cry at &#8220;The Christmas Shoes&#8221; and think its a good piece of music.  I don&#8217;t think they expect anyone in the target market to look at it any deeper than, &#8220;Oh isn&#8217;t that little boy cute!  I must run out and buy one of those cards so my child can be cute like that!&#8221;  And they were probably right.</p>
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		<title>By: Dandy Darkly</title>
		<link>http://www.thecriticalcondition.com/2009/06/17/hallmark/comment-page-1/#comment-5537</link>
		<dc:creator>Dandy Darkly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m upset there&#039;s not more commercials with trannies in them.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katy:  My sermon was, in response to Mark&#039;s opening essay, a description of my own response as a viewer of the ad and the buttons it pushes for me.  I&#039;m curious, though: if, as you sensibly point out, the intended audience is probably women with kids, how, as you see it, does that affect the gender implications of the ad?  Did Hallmark misunderstand that audience in labeling girls as superficial and boys as genuine?  Or were they guessing that moms might have a special feeling for their little boys?  (By the way,  I&#039;d need some demonstration of the point that boys are generally understood to be more emotionally free--have more innocent, emotional exuberance--than girls:  a lot of grown-up boys would tell you we were trained otherwise.  Is this a compensatory fantasy: with real-world little boys being perhaps LESS likely to strike the right gift-giving note, the fantasy becomes more touching?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katy:  My sermon was, in response to Mark&#8217;s opening essay, a description of my own response as a viewer of the ad and the buttons it pushes for me.  I&#8217;m curious, though: if, as you sensibly point out, the intended audience is probably women with kids, how, as you see it, does that affect the gender implications of the ad?  Did Hallmark misunderstand that audience in labeling girls as superficial and boys as genuine?  Or were they guessing that moms might have a special feeling for their little boys?  (By the way,  I&#8217;d need some demonstration of the point that boys are generally understood to be more emotionally free&#8211;have more innocent, emotional exuberance&#8211;than girls:  a lot of grown-up boys would tell you we were trained otherwise.  Is this a compensatory fantasy: with real-world little boys being perhaps LESS likely to strike the right gift-giving note, the fantasy becomes more touching?)</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes -- I think you&#039;ve misinterpreted this commercial in a big way.  The point of the spot is simple: by doing something personal and cheap (recording your voice on a paper card) you can avoid the impersonal and expensive and get a more desirable result.  Why play the gender card?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes &#8212; I think you&#8217;ve misinterpreted this commercial in a big way.  The point of the spot is simple: by doing something personal and cheap (recording your voice on a paper card) you can avoid the impersonal and expensive and get a more desirable result.  Why play the gender card?</p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Men do buy cards, but women make up the majority of the greeting card market (more than eighty percent, I think?). This has been true since God was a boy, and it&#039;s reflected in the advertisements for sure.

I can&#039;t &quot;read&quot; this commercial without imagining its intended audience, and all due respect, I don&#039;t think that audience is (A) those who receive  Father&#039;s Day gifts; (B) adult men who buy cards for their fathers on Father&#039;s Day or really even (C) innocent children hoping to please their daddies on Father&#039;s Day. None of those groups really make sense for Hallmark to be targeting for this product.

I think the intended audience is adult women  with kids, who are likely to say awwwwww and spend the five bucks or more on the recordable card so that Junior will melt Daddy&#039;s heart. 

And no, I don&#039;t think gender is a coincidence here. It&#039;s possible to imagine this ad with two older boys and a younger girl waiting her turn. But the innocent, emotional exuberance of dancing along with the goofy card vs. the pat, fashionable gifts and the bossy tones of voice ... that stuff is associated with gender, especially the gender of kids. Little boys are seen as especially free from the corrupting influence of consumer culture.

By the way ... portraying men as dolts in commercials? That&#039;s also relying on tired gender tropes, and it gets on my nerves big time. It happens in commercials that target women (as in, look what idiots men are and look how superior we are) and in those that target men (as in, look how we&#039;re just goofy big kids and trying to get away from the bossy women.) There was a great Frontline documentary a few years back that discussed this intentional depiction of men in marketing agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men do buy cards, but women make up the majority of the greeting card market (more than eighty percent, I think?). This has been true since God was a boy, and it&#8217;s reflected in the advertisements for sure.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t &#8220;read&#8221; this commercial without imagining its intended audience, and all due respect, I don&#8217;t think that audience is (A) those who receive  Father&#8217;s Day gifts; (B) adult men who buy cards for their fathers on Father&#8217;s Day or really even (C) innocent children hoping to please their daddies on Father&#8217;s Day. None of those groups really make sense for Hallmark to be targeting for this product.</p>
<p>I think the intended audience is adult women  with kids, who are likely to say awwwwww and spend the five bucks or more on the recordable card so that Junior will melt Daddy&#8217;s heart. </p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t think gender is a coincidence here. It&#8217;s possible to imagine this ad with two older boys and a younger girl waiting her turn. But the innocent, emotional exuberance of dancing along with the goofy card vs. the pat, fashionable gifts and the bossy tones of voice &#8230; that stuff is associated with gender, especially the gender of kids. Little boys are seen as especially free from the corrupting influence of consumer culture.</p>
<p>By the way &#8230; portraying men as dolts in commercials? That&#8217;s also relying on tired gender tropes, and it gets on my nerves big time. It happens in commercials that target women (as in, look what idiots men are and look how superior we are) and in those that target men (as in, look how we&#8217;re just goofy big kids and trying to get away from the bossy women.) There was a great Frontline documentary a few years back that discussed this intentional depiction of men in marketing agencies.</p>
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