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	<title>Comments on: Continuing the Debate on &#8220;Avatar&#8221; and &#8220;The Blind Side&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this may be too little too late in terms of this conversation, but I got a newsletter from a local grassroots organization last week that created an analogy between Avatar and Appalachia--the conceit, of course, being coal vs. &quot;unobtainium&quot; mining.  I thought it was pretty interesting.  I think you could make the argument that lots of Appalachians live close to the land (and unfortunately are seen as &#039;savage native&#039; types by many) and feel a deep connection to it, and have seen it destroyed in countless ways through the past couple of centuries.

We&#039;re not blue down here, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this may be too little too late in terms of this conversation, but I got a newsletter from a local grassroots organization last week that created an analogy between Avatar and Appalachia&#8211;the conceit, of course, being coal vs. &#8220;unobtainium&#8221; mining.  I thought it was pretty interesting.  I think you could make the argument that lots of Appalachians live close to the land (and unfortunately are seen as &#8216;savage native&#8217; types by many) and feel a deep connection to it, and have seen it destroyed in countless ways through the past couple of centuries.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not blue down here, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Destiny- I LOVE your interpretation of Avatar!  Though my immediate reaction was more like Sheila&#039;s, I really enjoyed reading what you had to say about the film&#039;s commentary on faith.  I especially like the fact that Sigourney Weaver&#039;s character insists that there&#039;s a measurable spiritual/biological network that the Na&#039;vi can &quot;tap into.&quot;  Which is a powerful concept that is really in line with my own beliefs, and it&#039;s the one part of the movie that actually made me tear up, as stressed-out-science-nerdy as the scene was.  Your comments definitely gave me something new to consider about the film.  Awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Destiny- I LOVE your interpretation of Avatar!  Though my immediate reaction was more like Sheila&#8217;s, I really enjoyed reading what you had to say about the film&#8217;s commentary on faith.  I especially like the fact that Sigourney Weaver&#8217;s character insists that there&#8217;s a measurable spiritual/biological network that the Na&#8217;vi can &#8220;tap into.&#8221;  Which is a powerful concept that is really in line with my own beliefs, and it&#8217;s the one part of the movie that actually made me tear up, as stressed-out-science-nerdy as the scene was.  Your comments definitely gave me something new to consider about the film.  Awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: The Blind Side (I just can&#039;t stop!) Michael is the only major black character in the movie because he is the only major black character in his world -- part of the point is that he&#039;s set down in this extremely strange white world. So to richly depict the world of West Memphis is to undercut precisely the discomfort that Michael himself feels at living in a white world. Imbalance is part of the point.

This particular take on the true-life story focuses on the power of maternal love (at least for me), and so the main character is the mother. It&#039;s a star vehicle for Sandra Bullock, and that&#039;s what it is and I don&#039;t think the movie makes apologies for that. There&#039;s not a ton of focus on the father either (though if you read the real stories, he was far more integrally involved than what we see here). So in a story about the effect of nurturing, a choice was made to focus on the mother rather than the son. But I don&#039;t think there was a choice to focus on white people rather that black people. There are just more white people in the environment being depicted.

It would be false to give Michael bunches of eloquent dialogue to make him fully drawn, because that&#039;s not the way the character would express himself. His expression is physical not verbal, and that bodily expression is manifest not only in athletics, but just in the way he holds himself, the way he moves in the world. I think you need to give the actor more credit for all that he communicates through his posture, his walk, the look in his eyes. A writer and a dancer are both expressive, but in different languages.

But yes, fine, it&#039;s Sandra Bullock&#039;s movie because it&#039;s a Sandra Bullock movie, but I don&#039;t feel like I don&#039;t know this kid.

And finally, I think it still needs to be sussed out whether the movie embraces Republican politics just because it embraces a Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: The Blind Side (I just can&#8217;t stop!) Michael is the only major black character in the movie because he is the only major black character in his world &#8212; part of the point is that he&#8217;s set down in this extremely strange white world. So to richly depict the world of West Memphis is to undercut precisely the discomfort that Michael himself feels at living in a white world. Imbalance is part of the point.</p>
<p>This particular take on the true-life story focuses on the power of maternal love (at least for me), and so the main character is the mother. It&#8217;s a star vehicle for Sandra Bullock, and that&#8217;s what it is and I don&#8217;t think the movie makes apologies for that. There&#8217;s not a ton of focus on the father either (though if you read the real stories, he was far more integrally involved than what we see here). So in a story about the effect of nurturing, a choice was made to focus on the mother rather than the son. But I don&#8217;t think there was a choice to focus on white people rather that black people. There are just more white people in the environment being depicted.</p>
<p>It would be false to give Michael bunches of eloquent dialogue to make him fully drawn, because that&#8217;s not the way the character would express himself. His expression is physical not verbal, and that bodily expression is manifest not only in athletics, but just in the way he holds himself, the way he moves in the world. I think you need to give the actor more credit for all that he communicates through his posture, his walk, the look in his eyes. A writer and a dancer are both expressive, but in different languages.</p>
<p>But yes, fine, it&#8217;s Sandra Bullock&#8217;s movie because it&#8217;s a Sandra Bullock movie, but I don&#8217;t feel like I don&#8217;t know this kid.</p>
<p>And finally, I think it still needs to be sussed out whether the movie embraces Republican politics just because it embraces a Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse M</title>
		<link>http://www.thecriticalcondition.com/2009/12/31/avatar-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-7530</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved Ponyo. It&#039;s proof against the people who claim that &quot;motifs inevitably recur&quot; is an acceptable excuse for unoriginality.  Ponyo took a number of tropes -- the mystical child, the absent father, the female nature spirit, etc -- and moved each one in an entirely original direction. It was brilliantly suspenseful, beautifully sentimental, completely experimental, and refreshingly non-violent. Nobody who saw any part of that film -- even the trailer -- would ever have said, &quot;It&#039;s clearly just a retelling of [...]&quot;, even if it was inspired by Andersen&#039;s The Little Mermaid.

Thinking about Miyazaki&#039;s originality and general obscurity, and then thinking about Avatar and James Cameron... it just makes me sigh a little louder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved Ponyo. It&#8217;s proof against the people who claim that &#8220;motifs inevitably recur&#8221; is an acceptable excuse for unoriginality.  Ponyo took a number of tropes &#8212; the mystical child, the absent father, the female nature spirit, etc &#8212; and moved each one in an entirely original direction. It was brilliantly suspenseful, beautifully sentimental, completely experimental, and refreshingly non-violent. Nobody who saw any part of that film &#8212; even the trailer &#8212; would ever have said, &#8220;It&#8217;s clearly just a retelling of [...]&#8220;, even if it was inspired by Andersen&#8217;s The Little Mermaid.</p>
<p>Thinking about Miyazaki&#8217;s originality and general obscurity, and then thinking about Avatar and James Cameron&#8230; it just makes me sigh a little louder.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Blankenship</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron! Yes! PONYO totally has the goddess-spirit within in animals motif.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron! Yes! PONYO totally has the goddess-spirit within in animals motif.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Destiny&#039;s post reminded me about Hayao Miyazaki&#039;s films and there are lots of similarities there with AVATAR in terms of spirituality and environmentalism. Isn&#039;t there a prototype of the Mothertree in MY NEIGHBOR TOTORO? And the invocation of the goddess and--unless I&#039;m conflating with another movie--the incorporation of the goddess-spirit within animals are in PONYO as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Destiny&#8217;s post reminded me about Hayao Miyazaki&#8217;s films and there are lots of similarities there with AVATAR in terms of spirituality and environmentalism. Isn&#8217;t there a prototype of the Mothertree in MY NEIGHBOR TOTORO? And the invocation of the goddess and&#8211;unless I&#8217;m conflating with another movie&#8211;the incorporation of the goddess-spirit within animals are in PONYO as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you about the &quot;truth&quot; of the movie, and I will also offer this thought -- for me, the book was about Michael Oher.  The Tuohys were characters in his story, and they were really interesting characters, but my reading of the book is that it was about the wildly complicated person Michael is, and not about a saintly white family who rescued him.

Didn&#039;t see the movie, don&#039;t expect to spend any money to see it, so obviously my take on the movie is necessarily third-hand.  But I have heard that, in the movie, Sandra Bullock has to teach him about how his position is all about protecting people -- like the Tuohys! -- when, in the book, it is made explicit that Michael never needed any such intervention and had in fact scored off the charts on his protective instincts since he was a child.

As to &quot;Avatar,&quot; I have to admit that I got none of that and in fact never managed to get past the one-dimensional characters, and the hamfisted dialogue, and the tribal swaying, and so forth,  so my reaction to that movie can fairly be characterized as: &quot;Oooh, pretty.  Hee.  Hee hee.  Heeeeeeeeeeee hee hee -- oh, pretty -- hee hee HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.&quot;  (That last part being the moment when the giant robot exoskeleton proved to be equipped with a giant knife in a giant hip-holster.  A KNIFE.  For giant-robot-exoskeleton street-fighting, one presumes.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about the &#8220;truth&#8221; of the movie, and I will also offer this thought &#8212; for me, the book was about Michael Oher.  The Tuohys were characters in his story, and they were really interesting characters, but my reading of the book is that it was about the wildly complicated person Michael is, and not about a saintly white family who rescued him.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t see the movie, don&#8217;t expect to spend any money to see it, so obviously my take on the movie is necessarily third-hand.  But I have heard that, in the movie, Sandra Bullock has to teach him about how his position is all about protecting people &#8212; like the Tuohys! &#8212; when, in the book, it is made explicit that Michael never needed any such intervention and had in fact scored off the charts on his protective instincts since he was a child.</p>
<p>As to &#8220;Avatar,&#8221; I have to admit that I got none of that and in fact never managed to get past the one-dimensional characters, and the hamfisted dialogue, and the tribal swaying, and so forth,  so my reaction to that movie can fairly be characterized as: &#8220;Oooh, pretty.  Hee.  Hee hee.  Heeeeeeeeeeee hee hee &#8212; oh, pretty &#8212; hee hee HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.&#8221;  (That last part being the moment when the giant robot exoskeleton proved to be equipped with a giant knife in a giant hip-holster.  A KNIFE.  For giant-robot-exoskeleton street-fighting, one presumes.)</p>
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		<title>By: Destiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Destiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to see such intelligent debate!  I have to reserve comments on the Blind Side because I can&#039;t bring myself to see it and I won&#039;t unless Sandra Bullock nabs an Oscar nod.  I saw Avatar on Christmas day with my family, and as I walked out told my brother that it was a sci-fi re-telling of &quot;Dances with Wolves&quot;.  Now, as I look at it more deeply, I think the conflict in Avatar is not so much about race, but more about religion and faith.  The humans are completely without faith in this film: the humans are all soldiers, profiteers, and scientists and none profess any sense of religious conviction (as far as I can recall), but the Na&#039;vi all have a firm belief in their goddess (whose name escapes me, but she is female, and just before her death Sigourney Weaver&#039;s character confirms that she is real).  I think the film is saying that the crumbling of religious beliefs and ethics on earth has caused the destruction of our planet, and that a lack of morals and spiritual connection to the earth is what has created evil men like the Colonel (Stephen Lang) and Selfridge (I mean, they might as well have called him &quot;Selfish&quot;, played by Giovanni Ribisi).  The Colonel and Selfridge have no qualms about destroying sacred land to get closer to the unobtanium. They even relish the idea of weakening the Na&#039;vi by desecrating the symbols of their faith. 
In the end, the Na&#039;vi are only able to win the battle royale when Sully&#039;s prayers to the goddess are answered and the animals take up the fight.  The ceremony through which Sully is transformed can only be accomplished  by a communal chant in which each Na&#039;vi unites as one through faith in the goddess.  In the final moment, it is through the grace of the goddess that Sully becomes a true Na&#039;vi.  Is this not like the symbolism of baptism in the Christian church when a person emerges from the water born again?  
I think the racial arguments are completely valid, and I tend to view many works of art/ entertainment through a racial lens, but in this case it is the religious overtones that caught my attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to see such intelligent debate!  I have to reserve comments on the Blind Side because I can&#8217;t bring myself to see it and I won&#8217;t unless Sandra Bullock nabs an Oscar nod.  I saw Avatar on Christmas day with my family, and as I walked out told my brother that it was a sci-fi re-telling of &#8220;Dances with Wolves&#8221;.  Now, as I look at it more deeply, I think the conflict in Avatar is not so much about race, but more about religion and faith.  The humans are completely without faith in this film: the humans are all soldiers, profiteers, and scientists and none profess any sense of religious conviction (as far as I can recall), but the Na&#8217;vi all have a firm belief in their goddess (whose name escapes me, but she is female, and just before her death Sigourney Weaver&#8217;s character confirms that she is real).  I think the film is saying that the crumbling of religious beliefs and ethics on earth has caused the destruction of our planet, and that a lack of morals and spiritual connection to the earth is what has created evil men like the Colonel (Stephen Lang) and Selfridge (I mean, they might as well have called him &#8220;Selfish&#8221;, played by Giovanni Ribisi).  The Colonel and Selfridge have no qualms about destroying sacred land to get closer to the unobtanium. They even relish the idea of weakening the Na&#8217;vi by desecrating the symbols of their faith.<br />
In the end, the Na&#8217;vi are only able to win the battle royale when Sully&#8217;s prayers to the goddess are answered and the animals take up the fight.  The ceremony through which Sully is transformed can only be accomplished  by a communal chant in which each Na&#8217;vi unites as one through faith in the goddess.  In the final moment, it is through the grace of the goddess that Sully becomes a true Na&#8217;vi.  Is this not like the symbolism of baptism in the Christian church when a person emerges from the water born again?<br />
I think the racial arguments are completely valid, and I tend to view many works of art/ entertainment through a racial lens, but in this case it is the religious overtones that caught my attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your struggle with the issues in Avatar (until I see The Blind Side, I trust your assessment). My experience of the movie was strongly biased by my previous experience reading Science Fiction... with authors like Card and Ian Banks writing truly some truly bizarre, unfamiliar alien species, I couldn&#039;t help but see the Nav&#039;i as a thinly-veiled stand-in for tribal cultures, &quot;more human than human&quot; (as Rob Zombie might say).

Nonetheless, I can&#039;t deny that this film was built on some universal, genuinely positive messages about the momentum of hatred and xenophobia and the need for strong, open-minded people (like Sully, Neytiri, etc.) to stand up to it. In a way, I&#039;m falling into a trap that I&#039;ve always struggled to avoid: I&#039;m judging the movie by external standards, asking it to deliver a certain socially-informed complexity that it never promised.

Also, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve ever read a defense of white/human/etc guilt as a motif. It was an interesting angle, perhaps underrepresented in discussions of race relations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your struggle with the issues in Avatar (until I see The Blind Side, I trust your assessment). My experience of the movie was strongly biased by my previous experience reading Science Fiction&#8230; with authors like Card and Ian Banks writing truly some truly bizarre, unfamiliar alien species, I couldn&#8217;t help but see the Nav&#8217;i as a thinly-veiled stand-in for tribal cultures, &#8220;more human than human&#8221; (as Rob Zombie might say).</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I can&#8217;t deny that this film was built on some universal, genuinely positive messages about the momentum of hatred and xenophobia and the need for strong, open-minded people (like Sully, Neytiri, etc.) to stand up to it. In a way, I&#8217;m falling into a trap that I&#8217;ve always struggled to avoid: I&#8217;m judging the movie by external standards, asking it to deliver a certain socially-informed complexity that it never promised.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve ever read a defense of white/human/etc guilt as a motif. It was an interesting angle, perhaps underrepresented in discussions of race relations.</p>
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